Olovslund civic engagement project information in timeline format
Elisabet: this park was fixed in the 30s I think, because the houses, these houses, over here I think it something in the end of 20s.
Elisabet: Maybe they decided to figure out what species they had in their area and if there were any species endangered. I think it was that way, but I am not sure.
Elisabet: : In the beginning, the school was not included as there was a garden association here, who organized the first salamander night and invited Stefan to discuss the issue. As I lived here, so I participated in that get together and then we all went first to the pond and afterwards, to the assembly hall in the school. It was long before, I started working here. I was here like a guest, just living in surrounding and was interested in the project.
Elisabet: This is me and this is my college ( Britt-Inger Julin) So the first two years, she was also involved, but then she said: “If you want to take it over, you can do that.”
Elisabet: the (municipality) have a plan of taking care of this park and pond. That plan is from how to do that and it is from 2008. They voted that and that involves of looking over water level, cutting vegetation. Before they were always cutting vegetation in the begging of summer and in the middle, not thinking at all about the salamanders, just doing to prevent that it looks good. But now they do not cut vegetation till the end of the summer. Just not to disturb the development of the small ones.
Elisabet: it started in 2008 and since then we have been doing it every year.
Elisabet: Martina was speaking in the beginning of the meeting and she was telling about this project trying to replace salamanders to 2 km away from here in the place called Juda (?), where we know have been salamanders before. It was not there now. Then they constructed pond there, but then you cannot just take salamanders way from here putting them there, because they would walk back. Because this is where they were born. So they had to find something else and then what they did: Martina, she surounded pond over there, she put a fence height like this around the whole pond and then after the salamanders we found here, me and school children, then we took all these big species. We were supposed to collect 50 males and 50 females and put over there. The problem found out to be that as the animals were walking like here, it was still ice on the pond in the other lake, so we could not place them and time went and we were more and more nervous that we would not get 100 animals from here, as we should have. So then I and Martina, we met here at night 12 o’clock in the grass over there. It has been raining and we had tortures and so we lied in the grass looking for them and picked them and we got 50 males and 50 females. And we took it in the bucket on the bike and when to other pond and put them there. And then during the summer we hoped that they make/lay eggs, but we would not know and yes, of course we had to take away the fence for the small children be able to get up among the stones before winter. We wanted to called the growth ups before we took away the fence, so Martina, she dig down traps – small buckets – where they fell down and she succeeded to find 96 of 100. <…>And took them back here, and then took away the fence. Then we hoped that there should be small children and then they go up deep down in the ground for 2 years. And you did not know if it was success or not. And then last summer, it has been 2 or 3 years, and all of sudden; the pond over there was full of salamanders. And they are children and grandchildren of these ones and so now they live there. But the moment, when we were lying in the grass here with our tortures that was a great moment.
Elisabet: here was this lady living in one of the houses around the pond. Last year, she came by with her husband to inquire, if there’s anything she can do. I said well actually there is one thing. Since, it was a very sunny spring and I noticed when we went there, that smaller kids playing in the pool would destroy the heap and spread them out. So I asked her to take a walk around the pool in the evening to monitor if the heaps were ok. She did it actually during these warm days. She brought some tool to get the heaps together. She did that really.
Stephan: This is an old swimming pool that was established I think in the 1940-1950 or even earlier perhaps so part of these play grounds for children in different park areas in Stockholm
Stephan: really we had some investigations going on during the 1990´s trying to find out and also the close by the nature area judarn nature reserve, trying to find out some measurements on the situation of the amphibians <..> the idea was this resolution, that we would not allow any species to go more extinct in the Stockholm area <..> 1990 yes. The ideas came up you know. The problems for the biodiversity in the Stockholm urban areas. And how to manage that, for the future. And it was a combination of, how shall I say, surveys
Stephan: the first investigation I think it was done in 1996, it was published in a report, about the situation for amphibians, in Stockholm.
Stephan: we did that in I think it was in 2004-5, at the start, before we went to the pond and did the salamander count. And some people came there of course, but its open for me to contribute with some presentations, when people want.
Stephan: from 2006- 2004-2005 mainly we started to move more carefully investigate this area to see how the situation looked like. <..> during 2004-6 the establishment of new ponds came up on the agenda, to build new ponds for the amphibians. And also if you look into the Olovslund pond, of course we started up these meetings, you know the salamander counts at that time.
Stephan: I think it was 2006 or 2007 a management plan taking into account to how to manage the pond how to make it better for the amphibians.
Vide: I think was in 2006, the municipality had a project where they constructed a number of ponds around town
Vide: Well, since, I think we started in 2010 with a project that was a collaboration between the municipality and the Stockholm herpetological society <…> we had a little meeting and formed a kind of an informal network, with people from different parts or branches from the municipality and the herpetological society and also Stefan Lundberg was there as well. And Martina Kiibus as well, who is very involved in the Salamanders in Olovslund. And we decided to go ahead and continue the work with constructing more ponds and restoring wetlands in Stockholm municipality.
Gunilla: As long as I have been working here as a ecologist from 1996, I have been working with frogs, with the amphibians with one way or another
Gunilla: I've hired Martina we had more communication and actually this year she is only working for us with only Olovslund pond project. But last year she was doing some inventories as well in the other ponds.
Martina: I started in 2005, , in the beginning because that's when I was employed in Bromma.
(Note: Right now, she is not working with the project anymore, but she is involved for personal motivation.)
Martina: I thought it was 2005 (the project phase) which means that I wanted to look where to put the dam and where to get financial support to make it sure that I should get money for the dam and so forth.
Martina: then the dam was already built in March 2007 and within weeks, those amphibians that did exit in the area, did come to the dam but since dam was basically built for the great newts, I wanted to do this reintroduction which I did in 2009, that was the year we re-introduce, and then we used the salamander dam in Olovslund.
Martina: We waited 2 years to make sure that if they would come naturally but they did not.
Martina: I did not reintroduce adults but still there were still 100 adults in dam throughout the summer during the mating season of 2009, and then I put them back again in the Olovslund dam. Then if we add 100 juveniles, it would be a good project. But we had more than 400 juveniles so that meant that it was a really really good reproduction in the dam and it’s been the same in following summer. So it’s been good reproduction. So, I think, it’s been very successful and the next step would be to try and find another place for a dam close enough that when it’s get over populated, so salamanders can migrate and try to populate a new area and that’s what we trying to do now.
Martina: I observed the juveniles or the first breed and then they would not get mature until 2012. I made a follow up in 2010 and 2011, just to check