Elisabet: Martina was speaking in the beginning of the meeting and she was telling about this project trying to replace salamanders to 2 km away from here in the place called Juda (?), where we know have been salamanders before. It was not there now. Then they constructed pond there, but then you cannot just take salamanders way from here putting them there, because they would walk back. Because this is where they were born. So they had to find something else and then what they did: Martina, she surounded pond over there, she put a fence height like this around the whole pond and then after the salamanders we found here, me and school children, then we took all these big species. We were supposed to collect 50 males and 50 females and put over there. The problem found out to be that as the animals were walking like here, it was still ice on the pond in the other lake, so we could not place them and time went and we were more and more nervous that we would not get 100 animals from here, as we should have. So then I and Martina, we met here at night 12 o’clock in the grass over there. It has been raining and we had tortures and so we lied in the grass looking for them and picked them and we got 50 males and 50 females. And we took it in the bucket on the bike and when to other pond and put them there. And then during the summer we hoped that they make/lay eggs, but we would not know and yes, of course we had to take away the fence for the small children be able to get up among the stones before winter. We wanted to called the growth ups before we took away the fence, so Martina, she dig down traps – small buckets – where they fell down and she succeeded to find 96 of 100. <…>And took them back here, and then took away the fence. Then we hoped that there should be small children and then they go up deep down in the ground for 2 years. And you did not know if it was success or not. And then last summer, it has been 2 or 3 years, and all of sudden; the pond over there was full of salamanders. And they are children and grandchildren of these ones and so now they live there. But the moment, when we were lying in the grass here with our tortures that was a great moment.